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CIS/VAT Reverse Charge on materials


Hi all

Apologies if this has been already posted (I did try searching, but didnt find anything), but I am wondering if the VAT reverse charge should be applied to invoices for materials only, raised by a CIS subcontractor? The VAT Reverse charge is applied to sales invoices where a subcontractor is both CIS and VAT registered, when either labour, or both labour and materials are provided, however, I can't find anything about whether it should be applied when only materials are provided by the CIS and VAT registered subbie - can anyone please advise, rather than sitting on hold to HMRC for an hour!

The only info I can find relates to when either labour, or labour and materials are provided, and nothing relates to just materials being provided. I have been advised previously by HMRC that a Materials-only invoice should not be reported under CIS, so I am thinking the same would follow under the new Reverse Charge system ie VAT charged as normal as it isnt both VAT and CIS related?

Thanks in advance!

Gill



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GillyP wrote:

Hi all

Apologies if this has been already posted

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(I did try searching, but didnt find anything), but I am wondering if the VAT reverse charge should be applied to invoices for materials only, raised by a CIS subcontractor? The VAT Reverse charge is applied to sales invoices where a subcontractor is both CIS and VAT registered, when either labour, or both labour and materials are provided, however, I can't find anything about whether it should be applied when only materials are provided by the CIS and VAT registered subbie - can anyone please advise, rather than sitting on hold to HMRC for an hour!

The only info I can find relates to when either labour, or labour and materials are provided, and nothing relates to just materials being provided. I have been advised previously by HMRC that a Materials-only invoice should not be reported under CIS, so I am thinking the same would follow under the new Reverse Charge system ie VAT charged as normal as it isnt both VAT and CIS related?

Thanks in advance!

Gill


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-- Edited by BMM on Tuesday 11th of May 2021 04:47:17 PM

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Are the materials part of a future supply of labour and materials if so then charge VAT?

Or are they just 'getting' the materials for the contractor in which case it could be classed as a disbursement,

I always include material only invoices on the CIS return as I do not see why you wouldn't if already set up and I always advise to charge VAT on the materials, whether the sub-contractor wishes to reduce the invoice by the VAT amount so no mark up that is up to them, so if not a disbursement then VAT charged under the DRC as long as the contractor is not the end user.



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Thanks Doug - no, the materials were a one-off on this occasion, so will advise to charge vat as normal, and not subject to Reverse Charge. Thank you - thats really helpful.

Gill



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Yes, material only invoices charge VAT as usual.



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