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Tell me where to stick it!!


Always confuses me this. I have a lighting technician client and this year he has purchased replacement lighting, cabling etc. My gut instinct is for maintenance repairs and renewals (VT doesn't have the renewals bit but Taxfiler does) but not sure strictly if that's the right category or not. Purchases doesn't seem right as they are not for resale.



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Hi John
Shove it!!!!!

Well you did tell me to say that!


Couple of issues to consider
Duration of asset use
Materiality
Capitalisation policy

Some of these technician have huge expensive bits of kit so its hard to know without the above info.

If you dont capitalise then expense it. R&R is ok. If I recall I added 'renewals' to the 'repairs' bit in VT for one of mine, but Ive not got access to VT just now.




Where is Doug? Not seen him for a few days!!!!!!! Hopefully not being battered by the January onslaught.


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Well, this is an interesting one.

is there a requirement to renew periodically (as with the engines on a plane or lining of a kiln?).

If so (materiality assumed) you should be looking at capitalise and depreciate over useful economic life.

The general rule for when to capitalise assets after initial recognition are where they :

  • Enhance economic benefit
  • Restore previously consumed economic benefit
  • Replace seperately depreciated component

The lights and wiring did nt break so they are repairs and renewals but rather a component of the asset tthat depreciates at a seperate rate. To my mind, if they are material to the business they should be recognised and depreciated seperately. If they are immaterial I would recognise as an asset but through expenses rather than capitalisation.

or in other words... What Joanne said. lol.

Happy Monday. Some scallywags pulled the obvercables down for the train so been working from home today.

laters,

Shaun.



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Thanks Guys.

I had already considered treating as assets and you've both given me extra food for thought.



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Cheshire wrote:

Where is Doug? Not seen him for a few days!!!!!!! Hopefully not being battered by the January onslaught.


I am still here, you can't get rid of me that easybiggrin

Had some issues at home and thought I had the Jan workload under control but that went out the window, roll on Friday!Got an IHT question of my own to post later when I get some time, not had a chance to look into it properly myself as yet

Hi John, agree that I would certainly be looking at capitalising the equipment

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Shamus wrote:

Some scallywags pulled the obvercables down for the train so been working from home today.

laters,

Shaun.


What? You got advanced warning?!!!!!!!!!!!!! They usually let you get to the station, get on the train, pull out of the station and not let you get off the train - for 3 hours minimum!



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Artois wrote:
Cheshire wrote:

Where is Doug? Not seen him for a few days!!!!!!! Hopefully not being battered by the January onslaught.


I am still here, you can't get rid of me that easybiggrin

Had some issues at home and thought I had the Jan workload under control but that went out the window, roll on Friday!Got an IHT question of my own to post later when I get some time, not had a chance to look into it properly myself as yet

Hi John, agree that I would certainly be looking at capitalising the equipment

EDIT to sort out gaps between sentences!

-- Edited by Artois on Tuesday 29th of January 2019 07:09:14 AM



-- Edited by Artois on Tuesday 29th of January 2019 07:11:21 AM



-- Edited by Artois on Tuesday 29th of January 2019 07:12:42 AM


Oh heck, although great to be so busy if the dosh is rolling in! Glad you are still 'lurking'

Lol on the gaps. One of them is for ads, so try as you might......



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Cheshire wrote:
Shamus wrote:

Some scallywags pulled the overhead cables down for the train so been working from home today.

laters,

Shaun.


What? You got advanced warning?!!!!!!!!!!!!! They usually let you get to the station, get on the train, pull out of the station and not let you get off the train - for 3 hours minimum!


Yep, up at the crack of dawn, got to the station and thought... Am I late, did I miss it... Where were all the people.

Eventually got a tannoy announcement that the overheads were down and they would be arrnaging a replacement bus service... Yep, heard that one before!

Went and worked at home. biggrin

When they hold you prisoner on the trains have you ever noticed that such is only ever on the days when you can't get a seat!disbelief



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avatar?id=1637213&m=76&t=1548800102

C'mon John, whats the significance and in what order are the letters... (YABL or YBAL)... Assuming YABL so far I've got "Y Aye Bonnie Lassie"



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Shamus wrote:
Cheshire wrote:
Shamus wrote:

Some scallywags pulled the overhead cables down for the train so been working from home today.

laters,

Shaun.


What? You got advanced warning?!!!!!!!!!!!!! They usually let you get to the station, get on the train, pull out of the station and not let you get off the train - for 3 hours minimum!


Yep, up at the crack of dawn, got to the station and thought... Am I late, did I miss it... Where were all the people.

Eventually got a tannoy announcement that the overheads were down and they would be arrnaging a replacement bus service... Yep, heard that one before!

Went and worked at home. biggrin

When they hold you prisoner on the trains have you ever noticed that such is only ever on the days when you can't get a seat!disbelief


What is a seat on a train?!no



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Shamus wrote:

avatar?id=1637213&m=76&t=1548800102

C'mon John, whats the significance and in what order are the letters... (YABL or YBAL)... Assuming YABL so far I've got "Y Aye Bonnie Lassie"


Oh I know, I know!!! Is it a quiz Q?

Didnt see this earlier, was on my phone!

Stands for Yo..... Bo..... & Ac.....Lt. Do I get the prize? Is it chocolate?



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Cheshire wrote:
Shamus wrote:

avatar?id=1637213&m=76&t=1548800102

C'mon John, whats the significance and in what order are the letters... (YABL or YBAL)... Assuming YABL so far I've got "Y Aye Bonnie Lassie"


Oh I know, I know!!! Is it a quiz Q?

Didnt see this earlier, was on my phone!

Stands for Yo..... Bo..... & Ac.....Lt. Do I get the prize? Is it chocolate?


Well done Joanne. Obviously Shaun was that knee deep in corporate work my thread last year passed him bybiggrinbiggrinbiggrinbiggrin

The prize could well be chocolate, or even one of those molotov cocktails you have as your avatar, who knows!

Actually that logo is too in your face, I did it in a rush last night then overcropped it on one side so I had to recrop it. Will redo it over the weekend and make it a bit more subtle.

PS Seen your comments on vat reclaim thread and I'll respond on Friday, as I'm more or less on target with SA but behind to where I wanted to be.



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Hi John, I meant to ask earlier about the avatar but was that intrigued that I tried to google it but only came up with

Yildirim Beyazit Anadolu Lisesi

Which apparently is a Turkish high school!



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