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Self Assessment Tax - How do I account for it.


Hello forum,

For about a year now I have been doing the bookkeeping for a small housing association. I am now helping a friend manage her bookkeeping and it is quite different from doing a Housing Association to a person thats self employed.

So far I have created a cashbook and pettycash spreadsheet. I am scratching my head a bit as I know that she will pay tax through her self assessment shortly but how do I account for this in the cashbook? I don't think it would be classed as an expense so would not be included in her next self assessment?

How do other people account for Tax and NIC for the self employed?

I am hoping I can get some clarity on this.



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Hi Enso

Basically it is not part of the accounts. Tax and national insurance is a personal payment, which has nothing to do with business. Even more so if the tax liability is due to other incomes too (another business, investments, property lets etc.)

The tax/ Ni is calculated after the profit has been calculated. Then deductions are made for dissallowable items, and additions for allowances allowed for tax purpose. The business P&L is just a starting point 

Any payments to HMRC for tax and national insurance taken from business funds would be drawings.

HTH

Bill



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Hi Bill,

I think that clears it up perfectly. Thank you so much.

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I have a similar situation with a client. Should I just post the payment he has made for his self assessment tax to Directors Loan Account?

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Yes post to directors loan as a personal item and nothing to do with the limited company.



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Thank you. Thats what I was planning to do but its always nice to have clarification that you are doing it right.

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Another option for sole traders and partnerships is to show tax reserves on the balance sheet of the accounts. This only tends to work well for larger sole traders and partnerships where they manage their business transactions efficiently.

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