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Hi all,

Don't know if this has already been mentioned on the forum but the AAT have started releasing information about its new bookkeeping qualification.

See the following links:

Bookkeeping membership

AAT Licensed Bookkeeper

The designation is AATQB which I assume is AAT Qualified Bookkeeper.  They are obviously entering the market sector currently occupied by the IAB/ICB.  I can't help thinking that they must have noticed students qualifying to Level 3 then joining IAB/ICB so they can call themselves qualified bookkeepers and get a practice license.  This is an obvious business opportunity for the AAT.

David.

 

 



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Hi David,

The IAB/ICB comment seems a strange direction for people to be going in from AAT. Not saying that you are wrong there as I know that the ICB especially have been attempting to coax people away from the recognised qualifications by advertising in accountancy student publications. However, this is not something that I have seen any evidence of myself (to the best of my knowledge the migrations have in general actually been in the other direction).

AAT students pre MAAT can already practice but may make no reference to their professional body so in some ways this new recognition level is unnecessary (before acting on that ensure that you make your own investigations as rules of professional bodies change regularly).

Thinking about it I do imagine that some AAT students may hoist an ICB flag of convenience whilst they are training with the AAT but once they have moved to MAAT status and are able to make mention of AAT I would see no reason to maintain dual memberships.

Considering that, making AATQB a qualificaton in its own right for people who are still students makes a lot of sense as it eradicates any reason for any dalliance with other bodies.

As for the comment that the AAT are entering the sector occupied by IAB/ICB. That was always the AAT's sector and it was the others that entered it, not the other way around.

Its an interesting history in there where the so call bookkeeping bodies sought to invent a niche within that area but that niche does not really exist.

I say so called bookkeeping bodies as neither the ICB or IAB stop at trial balance meaning that they are simply aiming at the same market as the AAT but looking to offer cheaper / faster / easier alternatives to gain a share of the lucrative entry level market where career changers often on the back of redundancy are looking to find an income as quickly as possible.

Its a sound business strategy to gain market share but any strategy based on trying to take a chunk out of a much larger businesses revenue is ultimately going to result in the fly swatter approach that seems now to be being adopted by the AAT with this new interim qualification (that one can choose to keep as their ultimater qualification if they so wish).

It will be interesting to see how this all plays out in a qualification landscape that was already already changed considerably by ACCA-X. Certainly the risk averse side of me is saying that if I were a training company at the moment I would be looking to add the option of an AAT qualification to my stable of products.

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From experience - Qualified with AAT work under IAB. 1) be part of a body 2) The maths say it's cheaper than going it alone (Via HMRC MLR) Then in turn join the AAT. Pain in the backside tbf - Yet when it seems impossible to get a 'job' there is no choice, well apart from jacking it all in. For what it's worth, I don't believe that anyone without experience should go it alone without level 4 knowledge, if you plan to do SA. I don't say that in nasty way, there is soooo much to know. Added in the mix is learning the administration side of it all - for which I've found no book for that yet!!

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Hi Johnny,

exactly, you have joined the IAB as a flag of convenience whilst you get to MAAT MIP and then I assume you intend to abandon it.

Also, I agree with your restriction but would also add to that not just level IV AAT but rather level IV taking the two tax papers as one's options papers.

I don't know if you have looked at those yet but when you do you will be happy to know that the AAT use HMRC forms to teach tax.



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Hi. When I say administration, I mean such like as working papers, intricate notes etc etc. AAT Is almost perfect for most businesses served. Experience is always a bonus - for those of us without, for one reason or another....The sensible thing to do after AAT, is ATT.

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The AAT do restrict you in what you can offer, even if you have done the two tax papers, as you have to provided verified work experience in any service you want to offer.

I think the bookkeeping membership is going to be great offering, not everyone wants to go through level 4, yet they get a kind of membership of the AAT, which is so well known in the industry.



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Latest update from AAT is that anyone with the full level 4 membership and practice licence can call themselves an 'AAT Licensed Accountant' and a level 2-3 practice licence an 'AAT Licensed Bookkeeper'.

This is obviously to keep members from moving over to IAB/ICB in the early stages of AAT (As I did) in order to get a practice licence. Shrewd move imo.

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